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		<title>5 reasons why the Coalition will last.</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>My recent blog on why I think it is a mistake for the left to be focussing so much on the Liberal Democrats generated some interesting debate, on the blog, on Facebook and on Twitter.</p>
<p>Much of this debate focussed on the need to attack the coalition to try and bring it down as quickly as possible. Now I cant say that this would be anything other than a hot damn good thang! But I feel the need to write a couple of quick blogs about firstly how likely I think <p>Continue reading <a href="http://lunchtimelegend.co.uk/2010/08/5-reasons-why-the-coalition-will-last/">5 reasons why the Coalition will last.</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My recent blog on why I think it is a mistake for the <a href="http://lunchtimelegend.co.uk/2010/08/time-to-stop-wasting-time-hating-the-lib-dems/">left to be focussing so much on the Liberal Democrats</a> generated some interesting debate, on the blog, on Facebook and on Twitter.</p>
<p>Much of this debate focussed on the need to attack the coalition to try and bring it down as quickly as possible. Now I cant say that this would be anything other than a hot damn good thang! But I feel the need to write a couple of quick blogs about firstly how likely I think this is later how desirable it would be right now&#8230;.</p>
<p>So first of all a “few reasons why I think the coalition will last”.</p>
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<li>The Liberal Democrats simply 	cannot afford to be in a general election any time soon. With poll 	rating around <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-10963393">13-15% 	at the moment</a> the Liberals could face being wiped out if an 	election was called in the near future. Whatever the morals, ethics 	or conscience of a particular vote bringing down the government at 	the moment would likely put many Liberal Democrat MPs out of a 	job.
<p>Now Turkeys may sometimes vote for Christmas, and I have 	no doubt there are a fair few MPs who would  happily give up their 	jobs for a principle&#8230;. but I for one would not bet on enough of 	them doing that to topple the government any time soon.</p>
<p>Much 	more likely if you ask me is that having taken the hit in terms of 	public opinion for the negative impressions of the coalition the 	Liberals are tied into hoping that their popularity increases if and 	when the economy starts an upturn.</li>
<li>This coalition is a once in a 	generation opportunity to try and get <a href="http://www.electoral-reform.org.uk/">electoral 	reform</a>. Nick Clegg recently claimed that electoral reform is not 	the <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/aug/20/nick-clegg-electoral-reform-coalition">be 	all and end all of Lib Dem policy,</a> but the reality is it always 	will be due to the way First Past the post punishes third parties. 	For the Lib Dems (and for that matter and aspiring new party) 	changing the voting system is vital to them having any real 	prospects of influence.
<p>So it is of vital importance that the 	Liberals keep the coalition together to deliver a referendum on AV. 	If they pass up the opportunity to try and fight a referendum on 	this they might as well pack up their bags and go home.</p>
<p>Combined 	with low ratings in the polls, if the Liberals cannot make the 	coalition delivery electoral reform, then they risk becoming a 	marginalised irrelevance for 20 years or so. I don&#8217;t think there is 	any realistic possibility of them taking this risk.</li>
<li>The Liberal Democrats need to be 	able to demonstrate that coalitions can work. As far as I can see 	there are very few people outside of the most tribal and blinkered 	Labour and Tory diehards who do not at least acknowledge that FPTP 	is unfair. But despite this many people have objections to the 	adoption of electoral reform on other grounds.
<p>One of the 	principal of such objections is the fear that coalition government 	is inherently unstable, weak and indecisive. People look at 	countries (usually those who operate straight party lists systems 	like Israel, Belgium or pre 90s reform Italy) and feel that 	coalition governments are necessarily flakey and prone to dissolving 	at the first sign of trouble.</p>
<p>Again the Liberals have a once 	in a generation opportunity to try and change perspectives on this. 	Even if they suffer in the short term by making this coalition work, 	and last, they have the potential prize of demonstrating that a hung 	parliament is not a bad thing and can work. This, in the long term, 	is central to their chances of being an influential and successful 	political party in Britain over the long haul.</li>
<li>Next it is clearly suiting David 	Cameron having the Liberals forming something of a bulwark against 	the hard right within his own party, at least in the short term. A 	big risk of Cameron was always that the extreme of the party would 	be very unhappy with his urbane “Notting Hill set” style of 	leadership and political instincts.
<p>Being in a coalition 	allows him to be able to blame any such policies on the Liberals and 	the coalition even if he privately supports them and would have 	tried to do it even if the Tories had won the election outright.</li>
<li>The Liberal Democrats are 	providing a handy pressure valve for the Tories. It seems that the 	majority of the <a href="http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/06/28/another-poll-confirms-libdems-bleeding-support-to-labour/">backlash, 	and negative feelings toward the Government are being held toward 	the Libs</a>. They are being blamed for the bad stuff, and the left 	is focussing most of it&#8217;s ire on them (wrongly in my 	opinion).
<p>Insofar as this continues the smart tactic for the 	Tories is to maintain the coalition and hope that if things improve 	in the run up to the next election, then it will be them and not 	their coalition partners that ream the reward.</li>
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<p>I have long thought for these reasons it is fundamentally wrong headed to assume that it is going to be easy to bring down the government. I find it hard to imagine a situation in which an early election is going to be good for the Libs, and it can&#8217;t see the Tories wanting an election unless it starts to look like a shoe in that they are going to win the next election.</p>
<p>So anyway that is part one, next blog about why I am not even sure it is desirable, right at this moment, to bring down the coalition.
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		<title>Some idle speculation about the future for Political Parties.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ralph Ferrett</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Providing the Con-Dem coalition doesn’t volcanically explode in only a few months due to falling outs and fundamental incompatibility then there is every chance that for good or for bad the coalition will re-shape, and re-mould British politics and it could end up having a profound effect on our party structure. Particularly if voting reform happens.</p>
<p>I am massively in favour of voting reform, I think changing “the rules of the game” will have a massive impact on how the game is played. And a proper pluralism in our Party system, <p>Continue reading <a href="http://lunchtimelegend.co.uk/2010/05/some-idle-speculation-about-the-future-for-political-parties/">Some idle speculation about the future for Political Parties.</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: tahoma, arial;"><span style="font-size: small;">Providing the Con-Dem coalition doesn’t volcanically explode in only a few months due to falling outs and fundamental incompatibility then there is every chance that for good or for bad the coalition will re-shape, and re-mould British politics and it could end up having a profound effect on our party structure. Particularly if voting reform happens.</span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: tahoma, arial;"><span style="font-size: small;">I am massively in favour of </span></span></span><a href="http://www.voteforachange.co.uk/"><span style="color: #3366cc;"><span style="font-family: tahoma, arial;"><span style="font-size: small;"><strong>voting reform</strong></span></span></span></a><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: tahoma, arial;"><span style="font-size: small;">, I think changing “the rules of the game” will have a massive impact on how the game is played. And a proper pluralism in our Party system, where different viewpoint currently kept out of things by our party oligarchies being involved would be a good thing. I think we need disenfranchised voices from the left, from the green, even from the eurosceptic right (though not to keen on them myself) involved more in our party discourse.</span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: tahoma, arial;"><span style="font-size: small;">But irrespective of whether or not voting reform happens here are a couple of things that are possible (if a little improbable).</span></span></span></p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: tahoma, arial;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">A Liberal Conservative Party or List?</span></span></span></span></strong></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: tahoma, arial;"><span style="font-size: small;">It is an oft stated bit of truism that the moderates, and centrists in all of our parties tend to be more comfortable with each other, than with the opposite wings of their respective parties.</span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: tahoma, arial;"><span style="font-size: small;">One interesting outcome of the Con/Dem pact will be if the Centre and the Left of the</span></span></span><a href="http://www.conservatives.com/"><span style="color: #3366cc;"><span style="font-family: tahoma, arial;"><span style="font-size: small;"> </span></span></span><span style="color: #3366cc;"><span style="font-family: tahoma, arial;"><span style="font-size: small;"><strong>Tory Party</strong></span></span></span></a><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: tahoma, arial;"><span style="font-size: small;">, in addition to the Centre and the Right of the </span></span></span><a href="http://www.libdems.org.uk/home.aspx"><span style="color: #3366cc;"><span style="font-family: tahoma, arial;"><span style="font-size: small;"><strong>Lib Dem</strong></span></span></span></a><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: tahoma, arial;"><span style="font-size: small;"> parties decide they are frankly more comfortable with, and closer to, each other than they are they are to the “extreme” wings of their own parties.</span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: tahoma, arial;"><span style="font-size: small;">In truth there is probably not a great deal of ideological difference between the Lib Dem </span></span></span><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Orange_Book_-_Reclaiming_Liberalism"><span style="color: #3366cc;"><span style="font-family: tahoma, arial;"><span style="font-size: small;">“</span></span></span><span style="color: #3366cc;"><span style="font-family: tahoma, arial;"><span style="font-size: small;"><strong>Orange Book”</strong></span></span></span></a><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: tahoma, arial;"><span style="font-size: small;"> faction and the so called </span></span></span><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notting_Hill_Set"><span style="color: #3366cc;"><span style="font-family: tahoma, arial;"><span style="font-size: small;">“</span></span></span><span style="color: #3366cc;"><span style="font-family: tahoma, arial;"><span style="font-size: small;"><strong>Notting Hill Set”</strong></span></span></span></a><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: tahoma, arial;"><span style="font-size: small;"> in the Tory party. Further there are some common philosophical themes through the respective “Libertarian” wings of each party.</span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: tahoma, arial;"><span style="font-size: small;">As to how it could happen I doubt there would be a dramatic “gang of four” moment with people setting off to form a new party. More probable would be if the coalition lasts until the next election some sort of a selective </span></span></span><strong><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: tahoma, arial;"><span style="font-size: small;">no compete</span></span></span></strong><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: tahoma, arial;"><span style="font-size: small;">agreement between the two parties to keep out Labour in key marginals and to increase the proportion of pro-coalition Mps in their respective parties.</span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: tahoma, arial;"><span style="font-size: small;">I could imagine, that after the next election if no coalition is necessary that the Tory party may well invite a number of Lib Dems to cross the floor and take the Tory whip, boosting their numbers and changing the complexion of the Parliamentary Tory Party to one that would be more instinctively behind Cameron. How the right, particularly at in constituencies would react could be interesting! More on that later….</span></span></span></p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: tahoma, arial;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">The Labour Right and the Lib Dem Left.</span></span></span></span></strong></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: tahoma, arial;"><span style="font-size: small;">So in this scenario what happens to the Left of the Lib Dem party? Worth remembering that the Lib Dem party is a coalition themselves, the result of a merger between the Liberal party and the </span></span></span><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democratic_Party_(UK)"><span style="color: #3366cc;"><span style="font-family: tahoma, arial;"><span style="font-size: small;"><strong>Social Democrat Party</strong></span></span></span></a><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: tahoma, arial;"><span style="font-size: small;">. Now the “Orange Book” faction that seem so cosy with the Tories at the moment comes very much more from the Classical Liberal party.</span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: tahoma, arial;"><span style="font-size: small;">The SDP was essentially a splinter faction of the </span></span></span><a href="http://www2.labour.org.uk/"><span style="color: #3366cc;"><span style="font-family: tahoma, arial;"><span style="font-size: small;"><strong>Labour Party</strong></span></span></span></a><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: tahoma, arial;"><span style="font-size: small;">, when the “Gang of Four” (Roy Jenkins, Shirley Williams, David Owen William Rodgers) left the Labour Party due to concerns about its shift to the left and in their eyes it’s un-democratic nature to form a new party of the Centre Left. After failing to dislodge Labour as the party of the left the Liberal and SDP parties merged.</span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: tahoma, arial;"><span style="font-size: small;">Now the interesting thing is that the Gang of Four probably would not have left the party that Labour became, from the expulsion of the Militant tendency in the 80s, the structural reforms in Labour Party democracy to move closer to one man one vote, and the abolition of clause IV New Labour in many ways became the centrist party the SDP dreamed of.</span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: tahoma, arial;"><span style="font-size: small;">I think it is probably fair to say that the Right of the Labour party would welcome the disaffected left of the Lib Dems with open arms. Now further if (and I consider this very improbable) the Labour party moves a long way to the left, and the Mandlesonian clique finds themselves marginalised I can see a situation where the Labour Party free marketers might want to come together with the left of the Lib Dems… We could see the SDP reborn!</span></span></span></p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: tahoma, arial;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Right Tory Elements and UKIP</span></span></span></span></strong></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: tahoma, arial;"><span style="font-size: small;">So let’s just assume that the “Libservative” thing happens. Where does that leave the Tory hard right? Well already in lots of places Tory traditionalists and eurosceptics probably see more in common with </span></span></span><a href="http://www.ukip.org/"><span style="color: #3366cc;"><span style="font-family: tahoma, arial;"><span style="font-size: small;"><strong>UKIP</strong></span></span></span></a><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: tahoma, arial;"><span style="font-size: small;"> than they do with the Cameroon Notting Hill faction. Norman Tebbit has frequently all but come out for UKIP, particularly during the Euro elections.</span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: tahoma, arial;"><span style="font-size: small;">I think it is probably fair to say a big recasting of the Tory party in a much more liberal “one nation Tory” mode would be manna from heaven for UKIP in terms of defections from the Conservatives. Particularly if some sort of a “no compete” list actually happened, and local associations were disgruntled at having to effectively support a Liberal Democrat in an election.</span></span></span></p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: tahoma, arial;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">What now for the Left.</span></span></span></span></strong></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: tahoma, arial;"><span style="font-size: small;">Well since the modernisers in the Labour party came to the fore where Democratic Socialists and those to the left of them fall has been a tricky topic. The Diaspora of myriad left wing parties riddled by factionalism, petty jealousies and in fighting is as shocking as it is depressing.</span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: tahoma, arial;"><span style="font-size: small;">By my count you have:-</span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: tahoma, arial;"><span style="font-size: small;">Respect, The Socialist Party, The Socialist Workers Party, The Socialist Labour Party, The Communist Party, Workers Power, The Communist Party of Great Britain, and The Peoples Front of Judea…. no wait a second that last one is from a film!</span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: tahoma, arial;"><span style="font-size: small;">Now assuming that Labour don’t move drastically to the left (and I am sure they won’t, the conclusion they will reach is that the problem wasn’t that they were new labour, it was that they weren’t new labour enough!) then where will the left coalesce?</span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: tahoma, arial;"><span style="font-size: small;">My view is that it won’t be any of the infighting fracture groups who are surely doomed to remain a marginalised irrelevance. No I think the future of genuine left wing political groupings will be the </span></span></span><a href="http://www.greenparty.org.uk/"><span style="color: #3366cc;"><span style="font-family: tahoma, arial;"><span style="font-size: small;"><strong>Green Party</strong></span></span></span></a><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: tahoma, arial;"><span style="font-size: small;">.</span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: tahoma, arial;"><span style="font-size: small;">Even a cursory glance at recent Green Party manifestos show how in many ways they have adopted the mantle of the disaffected left. They are pro Union, in favour of redistributive tax policies, strong on Labours biggest area of weakness Civil Liberties. And of course they are the strongest on what is going to IMHO increasingly become the rallying call of the left and how the left attracts new disciples… the environment.</span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: tahoma, arial;"><span style="font-size: small;">Further the Party is a good “brand”, they are a credible nationally organised Party (now boasting a Member of Parliament), they appeal to young people and new voters, to different demographics. Also they poll well in local and European elections giving them a perfect platform to grow particularly if electoral reform ever happens. For the disaffected the left “The future is bright, the future is Green”.</span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: tahoma, arial;"><span style="font-size: small;">I must say that I find the idea of the Greens attractive, though their crazy mental anti science stance means at least for now they are not for me. But this really is where the left has a chance of making a difference, the plethora of vanity project left wing parties are frankly a joke and will never achieve anything.</span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: tahoma, arial;"><span style="font-size: small;">So there we have it, much this this will probably never happen but I reckon there is a possibility of some of it taking place.</span></span></span>
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